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5 differences between a NY ad conference and a SF web 2.0 conference

Brief diversion… ;-)
Just a couple random observations from my first day at MIXX, which as a NYC advertising conference, is probably exactly the opposite from a SF web 2.0 conference. I used to come to these things all the time for Revenue Science, but recently I haven’t been back for a full year or so.

Some things have changed, and some haven’t.

Here’s a brief rundown on the top 5 differences:

  1. Jackets, slacks, and ties
  2. Pens and paper
  3. "CGM"
  4. Women
  5. Facebook?

Jackets, slacks, and ties
At the most superficial level, people look very different than your typical Silicon Valley conference. The number of folks that are wearing jeans here can be counted on one hand, and the youngest people are in their 30s. You would not be overdressed here wearing a full-on suit, with handkerchief and all. Just leave the ascot at home.

What you won’t see here are rows of 24-year old Web 2.0 entrepreneurs wearing jeans and flip-flops. It’s all business here, which might have to do more with advertising than NY, but either way the intersection is powerful.

Pens and paper
Another thing you won’t see if lines of people with Apple Macbook Pros and digital cameras live-blogging and surfing the internet as the speakers go. Instead, people are just writing down notes via pen and paper. (Shocking, I know)

CGM
This one was sort of unexpected – people don’t call things User Generated Content (aka UGC), they call it Consumer Generated Media (CGM). In fact, there’s a bunch of people whose titles have CGM in them. Weird!

I think ultimately, it has to do with the fact that the tech entrepreneur crowd in SF is mostly focused on creation of new inventory – they need to convince USERS to come to their site and generate content, whereas for people who are typically on the advertising site, they see these people are CONSUMERS. Either way, it’s an interesting and subtle distinction that shows the differences in perspective.

Women
There’s a lot of women here, of all ages, all ethnicities, and all advertising job functions. ‘nuf said.

Facebook
It actually took a full 3 hours for someone to finally mention Facebook. Instead, the hot topic was integrated media, aka how to handle buying media on both traditional and interactive channels. Also, video is really hot – everyone wants to figure out the right angle, and in particular they talk about how there isn’t enough "good" inventory.

And of course, what they mean by "good" inventory is stuff that’s not UGC. Er, CGM. They want well-polished content to place their media next to, where they can be sure that it won’t harm the brand.

Anyway, it was a fun day – more to come later.

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Written by Andrew Chen
September 24th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
  • http://www.actonme.com Lalit Sarna

    WHAT!! no ascots? !!@*@)$#*@)$*@)($*

  • http://rosswriting.com/blog Bill Ross

    Hello, Andrew,

    Thought you’d like to know I took off on your “users” vs. “consumers” observation here in our culture-of-innovation blog, titling the post “How do you view your customers?”

    http://www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/archives/2007/10/how_do_you_thin.shtml

    Summary: who wants to be thought of/addressed as a “consumer”? I wrote, “Seeing people just as consumers is to think of them in a passive role; as mouths to be stuffed, you might say. ‘Users’ casts them in an active role: mouths that also have something to say, to contribute. As a consummate user myself, I’m far more receptive to a company that addresses me as a person with something to offer, rather than as a receptacle they wish to pour products into.”

    – I found the link to your post here, in Endless Innovation:

    http://endlessinnovation.typepad.com/endless_innovation/2007/10/californians-sa.html

    Thanks for the insight,
    Bill Ross
    The Heart of Innovation
    http://www.ideachampions.com/heartofinnovation/

    ===
    (btw, your recent posts, 9/26 & 10/4, on the difficulties of advertising on the top social networks are real eye-openers. That one commenter who said the poster co. spent 60K on Facebook and sold a donut? Holy crap!)

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